The Rise and Fall of Good Intentions

Joy Moore on May 16, 2024

The Mere Methodism Conference brought together world-class scholars and church leaders from across the Wesleyan world to explore the riches of our heritage, diving into the insights and contributions of faithful followers of Jesus Christ who have gone before us, and pointing us forward to a faithful future.

Participants gathered April 4-6 at the historic Lyceum in Alexandria, Virginia at the invitation of the John Wesley Institute. Below is video of Dr. Joy Moore, Professor of Biblical Preaching at Luther Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota.

The session is entitled “The Rise and Fall of Good Intentions”.

Additional talks from the conference will be posted in the coming days on the John Wesley Institute YouTube channel.

Downloadable podcast audio of this event is available on IRD’s SoundCloud account here:

The IRD · The Rise and Fall of Good Intentions
  1. Comment by Brian Evers on May 16, 2024 at 11:43 am

    I am not sure the title matched the speech.

    She snuck in DEI/CRT, which is not biblical.

    If you focus merely on race you forget that leftism holds us back from Grace just as much. Just because the USSR is no more, doesn’t mean the people who carry that way of thinking are no more too. The missionaries should be going to the Pro-Hamas rallies more than finding the last KKK member in Georgia. A lot more lost souls on campus.

  2. Comment by MikeB on May 17, 2024 at 1:46 pm

    OK, I seriously do not get this.
    This site documented that in the last 55 year United Methodism has been critically undermined by the seminaries watering down the Word of God, introducing social goodness as a priority, culminating in a takeover of rainbow desecrating embracing of all sins tyrants who corrupted UM so badly the only options left were to leave and pay a get out of jail fee in property or money.

    And here you flip the script back to page 25 (not even page 1), this is the exact sort of social oriented be nice that corrupted theological thought in the past.

    I know that a theology of God is real, the Bible is true, and we must focus on Christ makes for such uninteresting seminary dissertations, but this worship of outside the box thinking is heretical.

    Global Methodism will fall way faster than United Methodism did unless you guard the walls for false shepherds. People like Joy Moore want to be part of IRD and JM want to influence the site, to continue to influence the next generation of Seminary students to think more about community and inclusiveness than about Christ.

    This is someone who spells scriptural righteousness as j-u-s-t-i-c-e.

    The snakes are already in the pen.

  3. Comment by MikeB on May 17, 2024 at 2:10 pm

    Few more curious articles from the author.

    Post Dobbs

    Harry Potter references and calling the Bible “an ancient equivalent to Facebook.”

    There is a pattern here after reading dozens of her writings of pulling near random verses that out of context support whatever social discussions she is thinking. It’s like someone who is trying to foreclose on a house justifying with a carpe diem and closing with a veni vidi vici.

    This is NOT a biblical scholar, this is a community worker who uses a search tool to scan the Bible.

  4. Comment by Patrick on May 18, 2024 at 1:07 pm

    The Luther seminary I attended thirty years ago is not the same. It has left orthodoxy behind. This is sad.

  5. Comment by MikeB on May 18, 2024 at 4:13 pm

    If one looks at her writings on working Preacher, one will see that she calls the Bible the Facebook of ancient times, and rants about how terrible lawyers are right after Dobbs.

    I really want to know how she got picked from the thousands of “scholars and church leaders” to present at that conference.

  6. Comment by Steve on May 19, 2024 at 7:22 am

    She should have spoken on the rise and fall of Lutheranism, brought on by liberal pastors like herself. The best decision my wife and I ever made was walking away from our ELCA church 2 years ago to join a non denominational Christian church. Their seminaries are turning out apostate pastors and their churches are dying.

  7. Comment by Dan on May 20, 2024 at 10:42 pm

    Why would you invite someone from a seminary associated with a denomination (ELCA) that is probably even more apostate than what the UMC has just become? If you needed a Lutheran, couldn’t you find a man from one of the Concordia seminaries to speak? At least he would have been faithful to the historic, confessional Lutheran faith.

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