GBCS headquarters at the United Methodist Building

May 10, 2018

UMC Lobby Office Continues Liberal Myopia, Raises Financial Accountability Concerns

16 Responses to UMC Lobby Office Continues Liberal Myopia, Raises Financial Accountability Concerns

  1. theenemyhatesclarity says:

    How about a resolution at the 2020 General Conference eliminating the GBCS, or at least eliminating any funding from UMC coffers. Piecemeal reform will never work with the GBCS.

    In Christ,

    the enemy hates clarity

    • Sue says:

      I agree. After growing up Methodist, raising our children in the Methodist church, I was shocked to see the 100% left wing Democratic agenda of the GBCS. It nagged at me until I finally stopped going to the Methodist Church. There are probably many members of the church who have no idea of the radical agenda of the GBCS. If it was brought up at Sunday service, and the members voted to get rid of it, I think it would be removed. Why are the Methodists lobbying in Washington anyway? Crazy!

  2. William says:

    The entire hierarchy of the UMC continues to distance itself from the greater church body. But this board is unique as it continues to show outright contempt for that body. They’re a self-appointed superior branch of the church, and appear to sincerely believe their superiority — a typical secular liberal protocol borrowed. Why else would they refuse feedback, scoff at criticism, put down those in the church beneath them, and act independent of the greater church body? They claim to have a special insight into Scripture that others are incapable of possessing. They claim to have a special gift of prophesy by which the rest of the church should be awed. They even have a special gift, that no one else in the church could possibly comprehend, of justifying Planned Parenthood, that organization that takes the lives of over 320,000 unborn children annually.

    The sad part of this — too many across the church fall for this and succumb to it, thus green lighting them in the pursuit of their agenda — an agenda much to closely aligned with the hard secular left and void of Christianity.

    Obviously this board should be abolished.

  3. Brad Pope says:

    So what should the laity do about the fact that leadership has left us? Leave, which many are doing? Become disheartened & less active, which even more are doing? Pray for revival & education in the word so congregants will have the spiritual eyesight to see when its leaders are off track? I think we would all agree on option number three however with so many great alternatives, non denominaltional & otherwise, option 3 is not attractive for very long. We need real leadership to step up with the courage of their convictions, speaking truth in love.

    • Mark says:

      Our church asks 2 question on what we are doing, 1st How is what we are doing pleasing to God and 2nd we read

      Galatians 1:10
      10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.

      And ask ourselves who are we doing it for. Maybe the higher ups should ask the same.

      You know it’s kinda like watching a smaller version of our Government at work.

  4. Susan Durovey-Antrim says:

    John, Thank you for continuing to shine light on these matters.

  5. Cathy Byrd says:

    This lack of accountability and progressive activism by agencies is why my husband and I are not tithing this year in a way that anything we give can go to UMC agencies, official seminaries of the espiscopacy.

    • William says:

      I confess. Me too. My tithe has become divided in such a way as to minimize as mush as possible any of it going to apportionments. It would be ideal if each church could offer a way for the individual donor to opt out of apportionments or individually designate where his/her apportionments donation goes.

    • Betsy says:

      Since having communicated with Jim winkler of gbcs way back in 2008 and before about their liberal issues and getting no where, we decided to give our tithe to the renewal groups
      Instead of to the apportionment which supports GBCS..
      Specific renewal groups we encourage you to support are UMAction, Good News (Rob Renfroe), Confessing Movement, Wesleyan Covenant Association and Concerned Merhodists.

  6. Kevin says:

    From the top down, the corporate organization of the UMC in the United States has become a spiritually corrupt and failed system. Spiritually corrupt bishops select new spiritually corrupt pastors who re-elect their spiritually corrupt bishops. And, the cycle continues. When one of the spiritually corrupt bishops finally retires, his or her replacement is elected from and by the ranks of the spiritually corrupt pastors.

  7. John Smith says:

    So to recap: The GBCS is unaccountable, over funded and incapable of internal reform.

  8. Skipper says:

    “How about a resolution at the 2020 General Conference eliminating the GBCS” – that sounds like a good solution! Wipe the slate clean and start over.

  9. Don Ellenberger says:

    How about encouraging churches to withhold apportionments?

    • John Smith says:

      The main problem with that approach is the UMC won’t get the message. There are so many reasons not to pay apportionment that which is the reason for the local churches action. Also, and someone feel free to correct me, but I think the GCBS has a very large endowment it can play with to include some temperance bequests it has “repurposed”.

  10. Nevil Speer says:

    I shared with my pastor last fall that I would no longer be a giving member of our UMC church – because part of it goes to GBCS. I cannot, in good faith, provide any support for GBCS – directly or indirectly. GBCS is nothing more than a political lobbying organization that cloaks as part of the United Methodist Church. But it goes beyond that. Recently, the GBCS tweeted: “United Methodists are called to a ministry of reconciliation between God, humankind and creation.” I shared with a former elder that I’m not sure what this even means – nor am I aware of any Biblical basis for that type of declaration. Stewards – yes, caretakers – yes – but agents of reconciliation with creation / nature? It’s so subtle, but it encroaches on New Age theology.

  11. DD says:

    The UMC has long been known to have been compromised by leftist dialogue. Particularly the General Board of Church and Society (GBCS) which is known to make many pronouncements that do not necessarily speak for the average member of the church. The UMC and the GBCS have advocated open borders, the LGBT agenda as well as so called social and economic justice narratives. This is why folks have left the UMC in droves over the past 20 years. The left knew it had a problem with voters of faith in the U.S. so it intentionally sought to infiltrate several denominations. They view it as a win/win since either they drive folks away from church or they control the opinions of those speaking from the pulpit. They did not count on new non-denominational church’s growing in such size and stature. The UMC has a long standing lobbying group in DC that has championed Obamacare, gun control, planned parenthood and increased taxation. As John notes, “defending persecuted Christians is conspicuously absent from Henry-Crowe’s list of priorities for 2018, shared at the GBCS’s spring 2018 board meeting.” That is telling. We left the UMC years ago due to the sanctimonious message from the some of our church leaders who loved their piety, preached economic justice while enjoying the trappings that a wealthy congregation bestowed on them.

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