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by Rev. Paul Stallsworth

Guest Writer

April 30, 2018

Rev. Paul Stallsworth: Way Beyond a Revision: The UMC’s Proposed New Social Principle on Abortion

19 Responses to Rev. Paul Stallsworth: Way Beyond a Revision: The UMC’s Proposed New Social Principle on Abortion

  1. William says:

    After questioning the GBCS support of Planned Parenthood recently, an ABORTION agency that performs over 320,000 abortions annually, a staff member, speaking for the director, emailed me that GBCS supports Planned Parenthood — “we know that both mothers and babies have a greater chance of surviving when women have access to pre-natal care and well baby visits”

    Can anyone come up with a more preposterous (and shocking) statement than that regarding Planned Parenthood?

    If this represents the UMC – GBCS, and I’m convinced it does, then these liberal revisions to the Social Principles are just another of their usual and customary protocol.

    My recommendation to the 2020 General Conference — abolish this board and start over with actual Christians running it instead of the current satanic leaders.

  2. Karl A. Zeggert says:

    Show me in the Bible , chapter and verse that allowes the murder of unborn children. The COB, members of the Social Prnciples, and the 2020 GC must pray that they a Holy Spirit driven and not catwring to secular wims

    • Scott says:

      Our theology is now driven by contextualization. In other words are theology is created by the societal beliefs that surround us. What the scripture says seems no longer important to our COB and the GBCS. Instead we must keep society happy, not God. May God have mercy on the UMC!

  3. betsy says:

    “The revision seems trapped in the modern worldview of individualism, public health, and social science. It seems anthropocentric (centered on humanity), and neglectful of God and God’s creation, commands, and redemption.”

    As far as I am concerned, the above quote gets to the root of what is wrong with The United Methodist Church, especially here in America: We spend way too much time talking about what we do and not enough time talking about who God is and what He does.

  4. Debra Deyo says:

    It is shocking to me that the UMC doesn’t clearly identify abortion with sin and killing of a child! Also the local conferences should have the main vote on this and God as Father Son and Holy Spirit should be the main focus!

  5. Paul W. says:

    Having read the draft Social Principles, the problems you describe regarding the section on abortion are just the tip of the iceberg.

    The entire document reads as a leftist secular political statement where someone with little Christian or Wesleyan background went back and attempted to edit in additional text to give it an extremely shallow “Christian” veneer.

    Two lines of reasoning lead me to this conclusion: 1) The document is much easier to read and much clearer if you skip over every sentence that include any religious reference. (Seriously, I encourage you to check this out for yourself.) 2) The majority of the scripture references and John Wesley quotes are taken out of context, often painfully so.

    What I find most disturbing about the draft document is the seeming apathy and lack of effort put in by the authors in regard to trying to provide any Scriptural and/or Wesleyan basis for the policy positions.
    Am I to assume that GBCS has no access to competent Biblical and Wesleyan scholars, pastors, or laity capable of constructing these arguments? Or am I to assume that GBCS just doesn’t care?

    • William says:

      They are little more than a political action arm of the modern Democratic Party. If there are any Christians working there, they must have to stay in the closet in order to keep their jobs.

    • Lee D. Cary says:

      “The entire document reads as a leftist secular political statement where someone with little Christian or Wesleyan background went back and attempted to edit in additional text to give it an extremely shallow “Christian” veneer.”

      Spot-on. Thank you.

  6. James Lung says:

    This reprehensible rejection of the flawed but workable current stance is yet another abomination to issue from gbcs. That Agency must be abolished.

  7. Rebecca Shaw says:

    Hillary Clinton advocates late-stage abortion. And she still can’t believe she lost the election.

  8. Stuart Sherman says:

    Why are we NOT surprised at the liberal watering down of this document? Seems that is the direction of all the General boards and agencies!

  9. Don says:

    All of the above. The Group Blending Christ and Sin (GBSC) must be abolished, all of it’s sponsors defrocked and placed on unemployment

  10. Joy Jensen says:

    Reminds me of one of Paul Harvey’s “If I Were the Devil” essays where he mentions something about either unclear wording or words to muddy men’s minds. The question is now have we become what we say or are we saying what we think will bring the least offense?
    Remember the mind makes no distinction between what it has done and what it thinks has been done. If one thinks of something long enough it becomes that in fact to that person. How many people have thought themselves into leaning (falling) into these new facts?
    Those who have a strong grasp on The Truth must stand long, loud, and proud so that others may find it and stand strong as well.

  11. Rev. Paul T. Stallsworth says:

    Thanks much for reading and responding. Please take the next step, read the revised paragraph on abortion, and comment on it. You can find the revised paragraph and how to respond to it by going to Thanks for your faithfulness in following through.

  12. DonPhillips says:

    I think that you are very out of touch with mainstream America and are pushing a leftist ideology. Shame on the church for allowing this drifting away from the Gospels and Wesley.

  13. James Sperry says:

    When any established religion follows the liberal secular position on all moral matters it is no longer a church. If religious institutions do not take a strong moral position, who will? I do not wish the leave the United Methodist Church, but it seems to be rapidly leaving me. However, I will continue to resist as long as possible and I hope others who value our strong biblical tradition will also. It is terrible enough to have a government that does not value God given life, but to have a church that does not strongly defend it, is intolerable.

  14. David says:

    Exodus 20:13 still says, “thou shall not MURDER!” Translationshave used the work “kill” so long that it misses the true meaning or definition. Murder is the taking of human life! Not animals or plants; HUMANS. The womb is the containment of human life and deliberate abortion results in murder of that life! Should there come a situation where by the mother’s life or the fetus life is endangered one must pursue God’s leading and a choice made.

  15. Lee D. Cary says:

    Excellent article! It’s a heads-up on the next big debate in the UMC. Many insightful comments, too.

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