religious liberty oppression

Gay Episcopal Bishop: Religious Liberty is Oppressive

on July 23, 2020

Conservative Christians are using religious liberty as a basis to oppress the marginalized as well as traumatize parents of children who identify as LGBTQ, according to a retired Episcopal Church bishop and a filmmaker.

Retired New Hampshire Bishop Gene Robinson and filmmaker Daniel Karslake were hosted for a discussion by the Reconciling Ministries Network (RMN), an unofficial United Methodist LGBTQ caucus, on July 15. The bishop and the film producer equated God’s purposes with intersectional identity politics of the Left.

Robinson was the first man openly in a same-sex partnership to be consecrated a bishop in the Episcopal Church and the worldwide Anglican Communion. Karslake is known for his 2007 film “For the Bible Tells Me So,” screened at the Sundance Film Festival, which was critical of conservative evangelical subcultures.

Karslake’s new film “For They Know Not What They Do” was the starting point for discussion, with Karslake and Robinson noting tensions parents face when a child “comes out” as LGBTQ within a non-affirming community. Fear at the loss of community, status, and friends is almost as daunting for parents as it is for a child “especially,” Karslake argued, “when faith is in the mix.”

According to the speakers, conservative Christians uncritically parrot false conceptions of love that their churches teach. Mantras like “hate the sin but not the sinner” can be sincerely purported as God-approved perspectives. If love can be non-affirming, then conservative Christians, the two speakers argued, believe they are obeying God.

However, the speakers observed that when an individual in a non-affirming community publicly identifies as LGBTQ, “it is rare that a conservative Christian isn’t changed.” Some will see that their love was actually hate, but others will have a difficult time recognizing their error and plunge deeper into their conservative buffers.

In these scenarios, the speakers paint the conservative Christian as a passive loser. They do what their churches tell them, retreat into the safety of uniformity, and reject considering LGBTQ issues until directly touched by a personal event.

Karslake stated that conservative Christians turn their disdain towards transgenderism because they “know that they lost the gay thing.” The speakers’ assumptions of conservative Christians do not leave room for them to thoughtfully, proactively, and lovingly disagree with Leftist perspectives.

To be fair, Robinson noted that LGBTQ individuals likewise prefer their bubbles. Safe spaces of affirmation are kept safe by limiting contact with other communities. Therefore, he maintained that it is imperative for affirming allies to speak up. Karslake concluded that, though his films are accused of preaching to the choir, they must when the “choir isn’t singing loud enough.”

Another major hurdle to the LGBTQ community, according to Karslake, is a monopolization conservatives have on religious liberty. Personal connections are a crucial method—if not, the only available method—against the forces of politicized faith because conservatives have misconstrued and abused religious freedom to support special interests “in oppressive ways.”

The speakers insisted that religious motives are both oppressive and can result in atrocities. They cited the Pulse nightclub shooting, in which a 29-year-old man killed 49 people and wounded 53 others inside an Orlando nightclub frequented by gay men.

“There was religion all over that,” Karslake argued, a seeming reference to the perpetrator’s Muslim background. “There was religion behind the gun. There was definitely religion in front of the gun because so many of these young people at pulse…this was church for them.”

Neither speaker clarified what kind of “religious motives” might be behind the atrocity, leaving the listener to suppose that conservative arguments in favor of religious freedom and conscience protection somehow leads to massacres.

Robinson and Karslake declared that congregants must advocate for the oppressed in all intersections.

“I can’t preach a pride sermon and not make a connection between us,” Robinson stated. “When I see an LGBTQ person being sexists or racist or whatever I want to grab them and shake them and ask, ‘haven’t you learned anything from this experience?!”

“Intersectionality has always been there” Karslake maintained. Therefore, other justice movements should be supported and “stand up for the oppressed in whatever way” in whatever form that oppression presents.

If we do not support every movement perfectly, it is “okay with God,” Robinson confirmed. Progress, he believes, is still happening as evidenced by significant opposition within the Episcopal Church to Robinson’s 2003 consecration and less controversy around four other bishops who identify as gay in their later consecrations.

Robinson concluded that “love wins” because “God is love.”

  1. Comment by Lee D. Cary on July 23, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    It must be tiring to live out one’s life with a self-imposed image as a victim of what some other people do/might think of your sexual inclinations and practices.

    “Conservative Christians are using religious liberty as a basis to oppress the marginalized as well as traumatize parents of children who identify as LGBTQ, according to a retired Episcopal Church bishop and a filmmaker.”

    How’s that for a blanket condemnation of a significant segment of the Body of Christ. “Conservative Christians”….are as varied as bird species, Bishop. Perhaps you might consider getting over it – at some point.

  2. Comment by Douglas E Ehrhardt on July 24, 2020 at 1:36 am

    Victimism at its finest.

  3. Comment by Loren J Golden on July 24, 2020 at 10:42 am

    “There was religion behind the gun.  There was definitely religion in front of the gun because so many of these young people at pulse…this was church for them.”
    This is sadly oh so true.  In the Orlando nightclub shooting, both the perpetrator and the victims were trusting in a god that cannot save (Is. 45.20), and in the end, Mr. Mateen only succeeded in ushering himself and 49 of his victims into the presence “of him to whom we must (all) give account” (Heb. 4.13), “who is ready to judge the living and the dead” (I Pet. 4.5).
    “For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.  Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.  Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever!  Amen.  For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions.  For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.  And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” (Rom. 1.21-28)
    “Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, declares the Lord GOD.  Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin.  Cast away from you all the transgressions that you have committed, and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit!  Why will you die, O house of Israel?  For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Lord GOD; so turn, and live.” (Ezek. 18.30-32)

  4. Comment by Bob on July 24, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    Though scant comfort to the families of the victims, it long has been confirmed by the DOJ and specific FBI inquiry that the massacre at the Pulse night club was an atrocity of opportunity. The killer had no idea he was slaughtering people at a gay night club. He had wanted to shoot up a nearby Disney club but the security was too tight. I have heard several presentations by gay advocates since this event pointing to this event as an example of hatred against gays. An example of hatred, absolutely, but targeted at humanity and not any sexual orientation.

  5. Comment by Jeffrey Walton on July 24, 2020 at 4:24 pm

    Bob, can you cite or link to this?

  6. Comment by Walter on July 24, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    Haven’t you read Leviticus? If says man shay not lay with mankind, nor women with women! What don’t you perverts understand?

  7. Comment by Loren J Golden on July 29, 2020 at 9:57 am

    Leviticus 18.22 & 20.13 only specifically prohibit male homosexuality; they say nothing explicit about lesbianism.  The only passage in Scripture that speaks against lesbianism specifically is Romans 1.26, quoted in context in my post, above.
    Please be careful to state only what Scripture actually says, and do not claim that a passage says something that it does not.

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